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« on: December 03, 2009, 04:33:47 AM »

Please allow me to post some of my views on GBLT rights and politics and others related. If the subject does not concern you, just ignore.

I think there are some misunderstandings on the true advocacy of gays, bisexuals, lesbians and transexuals and that the identified gay activist Danton Remoto of Ang Ladlad is misunderstood or doesn't know how to present the advocacy. Watching the discussion on ANC on Gay Representation in Congress, Remoto seemed to be a bit confused of the subject matter.
His discussion centers on affection of same gender who wants to have a family and also their lifestyle rather than discrimination and equal opportunities for legal and social services and recognition in Philippine society. He could also have highlighted advocacy or fights against AIDS and STDs and teach and guide the small children well to develop their potential in arts, science and other fields so to avoid them being discouraged because of their gender and even provide them the necessary resources.
A lot of GBLTs are holding positions in companies and are achievers because they studied very hard to get a college degree and so, deserve that recognition of not being a burden to the society compared to the straight men and women who have 10 children, not planning their families and cannot even feed their children, not to mention those criminals who are actually straight men. GBLTs are no other than taxpayers and that they deserve to have a special place in Philippine community. The multi-billion dollar BPO is a gay-dominated sector. Government officials should be ashamed of themselves stealing gays' money whom they perceive to be a disease of the society.
Cross-dressing is a closed issue. That's an individual preference. Remoto could have highlighted other issues other than coming out and going live-ins like the right for conjugal properties and solving legal conflicts between/among gay parents who have adopted a child/children, if (same gender) marriage is legalized.
And I think Ang Ladlad should do some re-branding – change the name of the organization.
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 02:56:38 AM »

How stupid - why do they need this bill for something that is not even honored.  haha haha
Kulang na lang pagbawalan ang mga homosexuals maglakad sa kalsada. And that only means kapal talaga ng mukha ng mga Congressmen na yan in using GAY PROFESSIONALS' MONEY and they can afford to loss talents and contributors to economy if they choose to migrate to Scandinavian countries, etc. where same-gender marriage is honored - not to mention thousands and millions of STRAIGHT MEN sa squatters' area na anak ng anak na hindi naman kayang bumuhay ng pito, walo, siyam, sampung anak at mga criminals pa, compared sa same-gender partners living in that has adopted children who are well off and can send their adopted children to these reputable universities. How moral naman ni Abante in stealing GAYS' MONEY.  haha haha haha

http://www.congress.gov.ph/press/details.php?pressid=3962

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Solon wants to criminalize same sex union
08 December 2009 09:48:11 AM
Writer: Jasmin Camero, MRS-PRIB


A lawmaker has moved to criminalize same sex union, imposing stiffer penalties on violators.

Rep. Bienvenido Abante Jr. (6th District, Manila), author of House Bill 6919, branded as "highly immoral, scandalous and detestable act" the union of the same sex.

Abante said if such a union "becomes a reality in this part of the globe, that would snap the remaining strand of our moral values".

Abante, chair of House committee on public information, said there is no specific provision in the Revised Penal Code penalizing a person for marrying another of the same gender, neither is there a provision penalizing a person for solemnizing the marriage of persons of the same gender.

"While there is no documented same-sex marriage yet in our country, the absence of clear legislation serves as an invitation to same-sex marriage," Abante said.

Under the bill, violators faces 15 years imprisonment and a fine of not more than P150,000.00.

The bill provides that anybody who misdeclares or hides his or her true sex or gender for the purpose of securing a marriage license faces a 12 years jail term and a fine of P100,000.00.

Likewise, the bill also seeks to punish any person who shall issue a marriage license, or who shall solemnize the marriage of persons of the same sex or gender with imprisonment of 10 years and a fine of not more than P100,000.00

Under the bill, if the offender is a public officer, he or she shall be dismissed from employment and be barred from subsequent employment in any government office.

If the offender is authorized to solemnize marriage, his or her license or authority to solemnize marriage shall be revoked without need of further proceedings and shall be perpetually barred from solemnizing marriage.

It shall be the duty of the Local Civil Registrar and the solemnizing officer to first ascertain the true sex or gender of the parties before issuing a marriage license and solemnizing a marriage.

"Any marriage license issued, and any marriage solemnized, in violation of this measure shall be declared null and void," Abante said.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 07:25:23 AM »

... where same-gender marriage is honored - not to mention thousands and millions of STRAIGHT MEN sa squatters' area na anak ng anak na hindi naman kayang bumuhay ng pito, walo, siyam, sampung anak at mga criminals pa, compared sa same-gender partners living in that has adopted children who are well off and can send their adopted children to these reputable universities.

Though this does not in anyway concern me (haha), you have a strong point there PrinceChris. I don't understand why these mal-am(s) always create bills that would bring us deeper to economic hell hole.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 09:11:07 AM »

proud kaya ang tangang 'to that he came up with this bill?!?!?  oh no he still does not realize the power of GBLT community.. manood kaya sya ng PBB, para makita nya ang powers ni rica... Grin  tanga tlaga..

....Abante said if such a union "becomes a reality in this part of the globe, that would snap the remaining strand of our moral values".

moral values ka da...! oh no
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 09:15:52 AM »

i really hate people who do these things. This bill really doesn't do anything to help our country and as what mon will dig us deeper in hell.

They should just leave the gays alone. They help the country more than the straight ones do as what i have observed and based on what PrinceChris said.

And from the info below, I'm looking at the issue of the separation of state and church. Politicians were barking at priests looking for a run for office, but pastors are lawmakers and bro eddie is now running for president. I'm not really against them running especially if they are really capable of leading. It's just that it's more or less the background of abante that made the bill.

http://www.i-site.ph/Databases/Congress/13thHouse/personal/abante-personal.html
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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2009, 05:13:26 PM »

kadlaw ko sa MAL-AMS.. HAHAHA. la lang. ^_^  haha haha haha
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2009, 10:08:52 PM »

“Until the time comes when Ladlad is able to justify that having mixed sexual orientations and transgender identities is beneficial to the nation, its application for accreditation under the party-list system will remain just that,” Commission on Elections (Comelec) Chair Jose Melo said.

Read the whole story:
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20091218-242660/Ang-Ladlad-issue-splits-Comelec.

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2010, 01:38:12 PM »

For 2010 elections, comelec rejected GBLTs due to immorality issue. Last 2007 elections, comelec rejected them due to lack of national presence (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20091218-242660/Ang-Ladlad-issue-splits-Comelec). In 2013, ano na nman kaya ang reason na ibibigay ng comelec? comelec = consistently inconsistent.
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 05:52:55 PM »

SC orders Comelec to count Ladlad in 2010 polls
By Norman Bordadora
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:33:00 01/12/2010

Filed Under: Elections, Eleksyon 2010, Human Rights
MANILA, Philippines—The Supreme Court ordered the Commission on Elections (Comelec) Tuesday to recognize the gay group Ang Ladlad as an accredited party-list group and to include its name when the poll body starts printing the ballots for the May elections.

The directive was contained in a temporary restraining order issued by the court against a Comelec resolution disqualifying Ang Ladlad from the party-list elections in May.

Deputy Court Administrator Jose Midas Marquez, in a late afternoon news conference, told reporters that Ang Ladlad’s appeal of its disqualification by the Comelec remains pending with the Supreme Court.

He said the Supreme Court is aware of the time within which the Comelec should print the names of eligible candidates and party-list groups in the ballots for the precinct count optical scan system.

“If later on the Court finds that Ang Ladlad should be qualified, it might be difficult, if not impossible to include them in the ballots,” Marquez said.
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« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2010, 09:04:42 AM »

SC restraining order makes Ladlad feel gay
By Norman Bordadora
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:08:00 01/13/2010

Filed Under: Judiciary (system of justice), Elections, Eleksyon 2010
MANILA, Philippines – It may be a temporary victory but it’s a good enough reason for them to feel gay.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday restrained the Commission on Elections (Comelec) from enforcing its resolution disqualifying the gay group “Ang Ladlad” from the party-list elections in May.

In an en banc session, the court issued a temporary restraining order (TRO) directing the Comelec to continue recognizing Ang Ladlad as an accredited party-list group and include its name on the ballots, pending a final court ruling on Ang Ladlad’s appeal against the poll body’s disqualification order.

Deputy Court Administrator Jose Midas Marquez told reporters that Ang Ladlad’s appeal remained pending in the high court.

Marquez said the court was aware of the time constraints on the Comelec to print the names of eligible candidates and party-list groups on the ballots for the precinct count optical scan system.

“If, later on, the Court finds that Ang Ladlad should be qualified, it might be difficult, if not impossible, to include them on the ballots,” Marquez said.

‘We’re unstoppable’

Danton Remoto, Ang Ladlad president and nominee, hailed the Supreme Court ruling.

“We are the first gay and lesbian party in the world ... nothing can stop us now,” Remoto said in a phone interview. “Our arguments were well-written and were based on the law.”

Remoto said the court order for Ang Ladlad’s inclusion on the ballot proved that the Comelec’s decision, which had quoted passages from the Bible and the Koran to support its position, was wrong.

In a 26-page petition for certiorari filed on Jan. 4, Ang Ladlad asked the court to nullify the Comelec resolution and compel the commission to add the name of the gay group when ballots are printed starting on Jan. 25.

“A cursory perusal of the Comelec thesis reveals that the commission equated Ang Ladlad’s tolerance of the beliefs of those ‘differently oriented’ with the petitioner-applicant’s purported acts or practice of immorality,” the group said in its petition.

Ang Ladlad said the Comelec invoked Article 201 of the Revised Penal Code dealing with the glorification of criminals, violence in shows, obscene publications and lustful or p**nographic exhibitions to back its conclusion that the group was espousing doctrines contrary to public morals.

Carried to the extreme
“It may not be amiss to say … that homosexuality per se does not fall within the ambit of the penal law. That one’s affections toward people of the same sex easily translate to lust and immorality is obviously a nonsequitur,” the group added.

Carried to the extreme, equating homosexuality with immorality or criminality would make calling another person “bading” or “tibo” a ground for criminal action, Ang Ladlad told the court.

It said the Comelec commissioner who said there were already many homosexuals in Congress “may be exposed to charges of slander by the offended members of Congress whom he forced ‘out of the closet,’ because simply branding them as gays would then possibly constitute as a malicious imputation of a crime, vice or defect.”

“Then again, as pop celebrities Piolo Pascual and Sam Milby would have probably realized, had they pursued their complaint against show biz agent Lolit Solis, there is nothing depreciatory in the term ‘gay’ to warrant a conviction for libel,” the group said.

“At least for now, the term should be a neutral one,” it added.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 12:00:42 AM »

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/182667/obama-urges-repeal-of-ban-on-open-gays-in-military

Obama urges repeal of ban on open gays in military01/28/2010 | 10:29 AM

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama is reaching out to gay and lesbian constituents in urging Congress to repeal the ban on them serving openly in the military.

Obama on Wednesday told lawmakers they should repeal the Clinton-era policy. But he didn't include a commitment to suspend dismissing gays and lesbians or issue a deadline.

Obama's reference to the so-called "don't ask, don't tell" practice was just one line in his State of the Union address. It drew immediate criticism from Democratic allies and underscored the challenge Obama faces, not just with Congress but also with the Pentagon.

Richard Socarides, who advised President Bill Clinton on gay issues, says Obama should have been stronger. - AP
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